tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post1121028066174363665..comments2024-02-20T21:17:35.156-08:00Comments on Robert Philen's Blog: Mann and Wagner, Art and CultureRobert Philenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09457837427267431889noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-38427647016336149532010-08-14T21:19:54.269-07:002010-08-14T21:19:54.269-07:00Nowadays is very important to know about different...Nowadays is very important to know about different culture specially because many people travel from differents country. When we have some knowledge about the cultures we can understand better the people and we can understand ourselve in a simple way, and is easy to forget any taboo that impide the enjoyment of our life. <br /><a href="http://www.buyonline-rx.com/" title="buy viagra" rel="nofollow">buy viagra</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01813240290829967874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-71922732559169320732009-11-10T02:53:32.787-08:002009-11-10T02:53:32.787-08:00The meaning of the ring is in the ear of the behol...The meaning of the ring is in the ear of the beholder, certainly. However, to downplay, or as some Wagnerians attempt to do, expunge the the heavy nationalistic and violent racist themes from Wagner's work is intellectual dishonesty. Moreover, by denying or minimizing their existence, one does not have to confront the question of why one is so subconsciously entranced by the story of the tetraolgy.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872216855633065980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-72626547234232732172007-09-11T16:54:00.000-07:002007-09-11T16:54:00.000-07:00Allow me to clarify my intent for this post. I fir...Allow me to clarify my intent for this post. I first simply wanted to draw attention to Schneider's essay that I quote from, as I think it's an interesting piece about Mann, Wagner, and art. I don't really have an argument against Schneider or his essay, and if it seemed as if I did, then that's an unfortunate lack of clarity in my writing in this instance.<BR/><BR/>Second, I wanted to ad an addendum laying out my view on the complex relationship between Wagner's operas, especially the Ring operas, and Anti-Semitism. There is a common tendency to conflate Wagner's real Anti-Semitism or the real Anti-Semitic use of Wagner with an Anti-Semitic quality supposedly intrinsic to the music. It is this common tendency, and not Schneider, that I intended an argument against.Robert Philenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09457837427267431889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-51224899479478374172007-09-11T12:24:00.000-07:002007-09-11T12:24:00.000-07:00I am not sure if you are arguing with anyone becau...I am not sure if you are arguing with anyone because I don't beleive Mr. Schneider was suggesting at all what you are refuting. <BR/><BR/>"Ironically, to insist too hard on the anti-Semitism of the Ring operas is to unwittingly slip into anti-Semitism in the guise of combating it. It’s worth remembering that the Nibelungen could serve as cipher for Jews in certain cultural and historical contexts, as well as the other unsavory associations with Wagner’s music that held in certain specific contexts. But for any variety of other contexts, the only way it can be clearly the case that the Nibelungen are a stand-in for Jews and that the Ring is anti-Semitic is by assuming that Jews really are driven by lust for gold and power."<BR/><BR/>This would be true if found oneself in agreement with these sentiments. Simply being overly emphatic, however, of the music's anti-semitic history does not qualify one as a racist, only someone who can't fucking relax and enjoy a good peice of music.Nothing Cleverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01789109453224836664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-22325780646506288582007-09-06T07:02:00.000-07:002007-09-06T07:02:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comment and the lead. I'll check th...Thanks for the comment and the lead. I'll check this out. RobertRobert Philenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09457837427267431889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5049414276944858688.post-3359360997990390602007-09-06T06:00:00.000-07:002007-09-06T06:00:00.000-07:00You might be intereted in a blog also posted today...You might be intereted in a blog also posted today http://whoeverfightsmonsters-nhuthnance.blogspot.com/2007/09/after-downfall-german-reading-of-lord.html. I quoted from your pieace in a comment to hime. Thanks. JosephTimpinenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17914125962383635643noreply@blogger.com